by Joel » 08/01/08 12:24, Post This blank is a hollow-built Garrison 209e, using the original, unmodified taper. Re-reading the original post, I would also look at a Payne 102L by Rick Taupier, AJ Thramer, and Chris Carlin (among others). 2. Messages 1,024 Reaction score 9 Location Down East, EH! Che coincidenza che Hoagy Carmichael avesse portato con se proprio quella canna di Garrison. The blank is a beautiful Wes Jordan flamed bamboo Garrison 209E taper. ↳   Ephemera, empherma and Ephemerella..... ↳   Photos, paintings, written stories and talents. 31. Maximal zwei Rutenbauer sollen ein Modell bauen. Having never cast any of these rods I feel like I'm going into this blind and have no idea what the end product will be. For years I chose to fish rods the work the first 1/3 of the rod and were considered fast or medium. Made in 2005. So you may want to settle on a rod-maker that you like and go from there. Length (Feet): 7’9” Length (Inches): 93” Pieces: 2. Figure 2 is the stress curve for a Garrison 209E taper, casting 40 feet of DT5 line: Figure 2: Garrison 209E Stress Curve The horizontal axis displays location along the rod, in inches from the tip. then you see where guides need to be moved up or down to maintain a smooth curve of the rod, as well as a smoothly descending set of gaps between the line and the rod. Art built an identical rob for me with the only changes made … But what a lucky coincidence! Any opinions? The 209E exemplifies that rod action, and this is a personal favorite of mine. Vom Anfang beschloss ich, keine einzige Rute zu kopieren, und mit Ausnahme einer Garrison 209E … by abingram » 02/02/15 10:37, Return to “Rod making, restoration, repairs and discussion on those related topics concerning bamboo rods.”, Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Limited. Post by Joe Arguello » 08/19/08 15:24. I think this would speed up the taper a bit, and Thanks, Tim. For sale here is a bamboo rod made by Chris Raine - his rendition of the classic and very popular Garrison Michael Amman (CH) Bjarne Fries (DK) 30. I have attempted to convey the Garrison's look and feel with the use of genuine new old stock Super Z ferrules, stamped with the famous logo and the Pearl River NY address of the earliest ones. t.ex. Garrison 215 Garrison 221 Suche ein Taper aus und melde es uns mit diesem ONLINE FORMULAR Durch Anklicken des Modells kannst du das Taper … Are you familar with hexrod? It is hard deciding what a good rod is, especially when recommending it for another. Fortunately, I had only put one coat on the guides on an unvarnished blank. by Joel » 07/31/08 16:38, Post IÂ’ve built one fly rod under the guidance of a professional maker back in 2007. From "The Book." Okay, at least I have the right measurements now. Halstead George. The faster models will need more loading before they work down to the grip, the slower models work deep almost immediately. For sale here is a Garrison Model 209E taper bamboo rod built by Art Weiler of Pennsylvania. Garrison Everett. This board is for discussing the repair and restoration of bamboo fly rods, makers discussion and construction techniques relating to same. So I guess these guides are coming off. Garrison 209E - posted in Bamboo Rods - General: Here's another question... who can tell me something about the Garrison 209E? Garrison 209e Taper Bamboo Fly Rod - Fly Fishing About this book The bamboo fly rod still represents the pinnacle of the fly-fishing art; its apparent simplicity and delicacy belie the craftsmanship and strength Trout Fly Fishing Rods for Stillwater, Lake, and Loch Flyfishing I'm anxious to try her out, but I can't find guide spacing for this length rod. Thramer, Rick Cunningham, and Joe Arguello. Favorite Garrison taper. Serial no. 2 . Rich and Wes became friends, and when Wes Jordan passed away, Rich Durling was offered his estate of fly fishing blanks and parts. After hearing all the kudos about 7 foot, 9 inch bamboo rods, I decided to build one for myself. 208. by Tom Smithwick » 08/01/08 08:18, Post Bjarne Fries, Denmark 7' - 9" #5/6 Garrison 209E Split Cane Fly Rod . In my humble opinion I would go with the Garrison 209E 7'9, swell the butt and throw a 4wt line with it. Designed on a Garrison 209E taper for a 5 or 6 weight line. Garrison 209e Taper Bamboo Fly Rod - Fly Fishing About this book The bamboo fly rod still represents the pinnacle of the fly-fishing art; its apparent simplicity and delicacy belie the craftsmanship and strength ross fly rod | eBay - Electronics, Cars, Fashion, Collectibles ... Find great deals on eBay for ross fly rod and sage fly rod. Sold Out. Garrison 209. Absolutely beautiful and the most highly figured wood I have ever seen. by Joel » 08/01/08 13:48, Post Modell 209E. billems Master Guide Posts: 740 Joined: 05/11/06 23:00. rather than fudge the spacing. Everett Garrison was regarded as one : of the world's great bamboo rodmakers and will be remembered for all time in Fly Fishing American Folklore! ↳   Rod making, restoration, repairs and discussion on those related topics concerning bamboo rods. The vertical axis displays stress values (abbreviated f(b)) in units of ounces per square inch. Hoagy only made a little over 100 rods in his rod-buliding career and this has to rank up there with his finest. In my humble opinion I would go with the Garrison 209E 7'9, swell the butt and throw a 4wt line with it. The late Douglas Duck raved about this taper. by BobB » 09/11/09 05:37, Post Hier folgt die Liste unserer Taper. I hope so, cause I've already mounted and applied a coat of varnish to those guides. Modell 212. It all depends on what length you want (209e is 7'9", the 212e/boat rod/8013/8014 are 8'; and the 861611 and president are 8.5') and whether you really want a 5 … Alaric11 wrote : "My bamboo addiction makes me feel like a Major League manager trying to find playing time for a bench full of deserving talent.". Would appreciate any thoughts and opinions. I owned an 8' 209 and it was a nice 5 wt but it didn't really talk to me so I sold it to a member here, I don't know if he'd share the taper but I posted in the off chance he may read the post. Any factual basis for deciding or just a matter of opinion? For sale here is a bamboo rod made by Chris Raine - his rendition of the classic and very popular Garrison 209E taper - 7'9" 2/2 for a 5 weight line. Garrison 209E 7’9″ 5wt: Garrison pioneered, for the most part, the progressive rod action; that is, rods that progressively slow down the more line you have in the air. 2 . Sold Out Weiler, Art - Garrison Model 209E 7'9 5wt Bamboo Rod. troutnut4 Well-known member. Dimension. Hi Henry - Both the 209 and the 209E are moderate action 5 weights. Garrison 202E. Garrison 212. Hoagy Carmichael had precisely this Rod of Everett The original 209 taper was a 7'6" 2 pc rod and Garrison made it an 8' 2 pc when he redesigned the taper for modern lines, the 209e is a 7'9" taper. Examples would be, lines, actions, classic and modern makers actions and the like. Garrison 212 - 8ft 6wt 14/64 ferrule and #4.5 tip top. Then mount the reel and run line through the guides and put tension on it. Custom Richard Durling 7'8" 2 piece [with extra tip] 4/5wt bamboo fly rod. The rod remains in excellent+ condition. I'll bring my 209 to the Catskills, and you can judge for yourself. - posted in Taper Talk: QUOTE (Carlin @ Nov 20 2009, 11:31 AM) QUOTE (Don)Even though I'm not quite sure what Carlin is saying when he says that fishburn has it absolutely correct. We all have casting styles and I'm finding that the Garrison tapers in the medium fast vein fit my style very well. by SecondHandWolf » 09/11/09 04:41, Post Garrison 206 Garrison 209e Leonard 38-3 Thramer Dx series Heddon #35 9' Light Trout Edwards Quadrate #25 Dickerson 7012 McDowell 704DF. I quote from page 273: "One of the major differences between the medium tip and the regular or E tip (?) 7'9" 4wt? The tip guides given in the above post are for a 7' 3" rod. Rich was the owner of Rich's Valley Rods. Perhaps he will elaborate?QUOTE (fishbum)What is called Garrison's Math should rightly be refered to as Garrisons Model. You have singled out one of the most popular rod lengths/line-weights, that also has one of the greatest variety of tapers. The rod is in excellent plus condition. Top Rod: Leonard taper (DF) 7 ½' 39-5 (5wt line) 2/2 red silk with b/w jasper tipping and full intermediates. For sale here is a Garrison Model 209E taper bamboo rod built by Art Weiler of Pennsylvania. 6. Über das 1. I've heard the 209E called both a five and a six-weight. Is it prudent to own the 212e and 209e or too much overlap? 2. Top Rod: Garrison (modified) Full Flex taper flamed cane 8' 3/2 4wt DT line Bottom Rod: Wm Mills taper 7 ½ 2/2 2 or 3 DT line, Full Flex. Basandosi sul taper della Garrison 209E, hanno confrontato il sistema hollow fluting alla Winston, il Magic Star di Sgurd Vangen e lo svuotamento alla Powell con una canna identica ma piena. The math has been with us since 1750.Thanks Carlin, that's … Garrison 209E. On the base of the taper of a Garrison 209E they presented the system “hollow fluting” built by Winston, the « Magic Star”, the principle of Sgurd Vangen and the "scalloping" procedure as Powell did, compared with a identical conventional solid built rod. by timmy » 07/28/08 12:42, Post Crisp dry fly action. 7'9" 4wt? I know that this is an old thread, but it does serve my question. Dec 25, 2017 - September 2017 I now have a set taper and design for the 'G.M.S. 1. by HexaMaineiac » 08/02/08 01:27, Post The cone-shaped playing pieces taper at one end. Thanks so much, Fishbum! ↳   Rod making, restoration, repairs and discussion on those related topics concerning bamboo rods. Sold Out $795.00 US. fries-rods.dk. Was the original butt guide spacing Tim posted correct. Other than being busy with the business of packing for and getting all our ducks in a row, we waited until we got out to Colorado to shoot some quick photos in the field. Progressive medium fast action. ↳   Information About Makers and Manufacturers, ↳   Appraisals & Identification of Bamboo Fly Rods. Close up of photo 1 rods. A wonderful taper. No 209E: 7(9)' 5/6 wt (2 and 3 pc) No 212: 8' 5wt (2 and 3 pc.) Shop with confidence. Garrison's book has several inconsistencies, particularly in this E business. fries-rods.dk. fries-rods.dk. It was a tough decision but I settled on a Garrison 209E, a 7'9", 5 wt designed by Everett Garrison and written about in Hoagy B. Carmichael's book, A Master's Guide to Building a Bamboo Fly Rod. 7'9' in length is arguably the most desirable trout rod ever made. I'll PM you more details. I was guilty of starting and deleting a 209e thread. The original 209 taper was a 7'6" 2 pc rod and Garrison made it an 8' 2 pc when he redesigned the taper for modern lines, the 209e is a 7'9" taper. These rods are all different in personality but all great company on the water. The list I have compiled below is only a very small handful but represent what I think is a good cross section of lengths, actions and configurations. 0.071 It took a number of prototypes to get … - posted in Taper Talk: I'm going to start my first rod this week. Post I think this would speed up the taper a bit, and you should have lots of power for picking up a sinking line or a weighted wet fly. A custom built 2 section rod and 7'- 9" long. The female ferru I've made the 209e from Garrison's book, and the Para 14 from the Hexrod archives (and the Perfectionist in. Everett Garrison was regarded as one of the world's great bamboo rodmakers and will be remembered for all time in Fly Fishing American Folklore! I hope that someone who has made this rod will chime in to guide me. Since then life has gotten in the way and for the first time since that rod I find myself in a position to have a go at building another on my own. A Masters Guide är boken av och om Garrison och publicerades efter hans död, en bok som bör finnas på bokhyllan hos varje flugfiskare som är intresserad av split-cane spön, en bok om en av de mest fascinerande spöbyg- Garrison 209e Taper Bamboo Fly Rod - Fly Fishing Bamboo Fly Rod 7' 22 4 Wt " The Premier " Van Staal Cvex Fly Reel Combo Kit Cvx912g Gold Quick Change 2 Spool System; Tfo Finesse 2 Wt Graphite Fly Rod; cabelas fly reel | eBay - Electronics, Cars, Fashion, Collectibles ... Find great deals on eBay for cabelas fly reel and orvis fly reel. This 7ft 9in progressive taper, modified for plastic lines from the 209, works great with a DT5F (some prefer a WF6F) at normal fishing distances with the range of dries and smaller nymphs, streamers and wets appropriate to a 5 weight. In his time he made over 700 Garrison fly rods. Garrison 212E 8′ 6wt: See above. Even when the measurements are taken from the tiptop down, they're still a little screwy. Dreimal das 209E-Taper nach Garrison. Joel, I'm in Bowdoinham. These are not from the original makers but some of the tapers that I have had the chance to cast and also make. The spacing goes from 5.5" to 7" to 6.75" to 6.125" to 5.5" moving from tiptop down towards the male ferrule end. Top. by HexaMaineiac » 07/28/08 09:38, Post Rich and Wes became friends, and when Wes Jordan passed away, Rich Durling was offered his estate of fly fishing blanks and parts. Post There were lots of other rare rods not for casting, and some other cool stuff. For sale here is a Garrison Model 209E taper bamboo rod built by Art Weiler of Pennsylvania. Other than being busy with the business of packing for and getting all our ducks in a row, we waited until we got out to Colorado to shoot some quick photos in the field. Sold Out $795.00 US. Maximal zwei Rutenbauer sollen ein Modell bauen. If you live in New England and like cane, you should go out of your way to make the drive next year. The ones I have are built by AJ and Art Weiler and are well built and in the Garrison tradition very understated. I owned an 8' 209 and it was a nice 5 wt but it didn't really talk to me so I sold it to a member here, I don't know if he'd share the taper but I posted in the off chance he may read the post. Von links: Christian Strixner mit seiner Hohlgebauten, Hoagy Carmichael mit der Originalrute von Garrison und Philipp Sicher mit der Magic Star, System Vangen. Built from split cane with NiS fittings, translucent ring tyings, tungsten butt ring, snake intermediates and hayfork end ring. Genuine Tonkin Cane Bamboo Fly Rod Blank A smooth casting beautifully finished genuine hexagonal Tonkin Bamboo fly rod blank featuring genuine nickel silver ferrules fitted and ready to wrap. – Foto: U. Anderson. A very nice reproduction of an extremely popular... View full product details + Weiler, Art - Garrison Model 209E 7'9 5wt Bamboo Rod. There is a lot of debate on this, 5 or 6? by fishnbanjo » 09/11/09 05:52, Post ... For example, Howells' taper for the PHY Midge is reportedly from "the best" of 20-some Midge's cast by master rodmaker Daryll Whitehead. Something doesn't seem right because the guide spacing actually increases between the butt and tip section guides. 32. The Norman Agutter's Garrison GT series is a tribute to the great maker, a unique style and design of rods with a … For sale here is a Garrison Model 209E taper bamboo rod built by Art Weiler of Pennsylvania. 7'9. Short of that, I be happy with generic spacing off any well made 7'-9". This blank is a hollow-built Garrison 209e, using the original, unmodified taper. Europäische Rutenbauertreffen für Gespließte. I'm really sorry, Mea culpa. Designed on a Garrison 209E taper for a 5 or 6 weight line. by alistair59 » 09/11/09 04:33, Post Garrison measured for guides from the butt to the ferrule and from the ferrule to the tip top. Page 2 of 2 - stress value? Figure 2 is the stress curve for a Garrison 209E taper, casting 40 feet of DT5 line: Figure 2: Garrison 209E Stress Curve The horizontal axis displays location along the rod, in inches from the tip. The blank is a beautiful Wes Jordan flamed bamboo Garrison 209E taper. ↳   Rod makers history, value guide and general discussion, ↳   Link to Orvis Database by Greg Reynolds, ↳   Link to EC Powell's Mechanics of fly casting. the Hexrod archives, but I submitted it so I should like it : ) They are very different tapers though; the 209e is a smooth progressive taper, and the Para 14 a classic parabolic. Hoagy Carmichael had precisely this Rod of Everett I expect I'm in the minority, but I don't use guide spacing on most rods. by BobB » 09/11/09 03:13, Post by timmy » 08/01/08 23:23, Post Also seems to be a large gap between the last guide and the tiptop. *Note I did not swell the butt and I wish I had. Special' as outlined in my November 2016 post below. The 209E exemplifies that rod action, and this is a personal favorite of mine. by Joel » 07/28/08 04:19, Post by fishbum » 08/01/08 02:48, Post Most any rod maker can work very effectively with you. Post by billems » 06/01/07 15:13. I am wondering now if I started the guides further up the rod than I should or is that length correct for this rod? Ferrule: 13/64 . fries-rods.dk. Garrison 209E 7.8 ft 5 wt; Garrison 212 8 ft 6 wt; 4.5 tiptop Garrison 212E 8 ft 6 wt; 4.5 tiptop Garrison 215 8.5 ft 8 wt; 4.5 tiptop Garrison 221 8.8 ft 7 wt; 5 tiptop Garrison Model 193 6.8 ft 4 wt; Garrison Model 212 8 ft 6 wt; Garrison Model 221 8.8 ft 7 wt; George Maurer 7042 7-4 7 ft 4 wt; from George's rodmaking class. And also make earlier builds… at least I have had the chance to and. ( CH ) Bjarne Fries, garrison 209e taper 7 ' - 9 '' that. The North Western African country of Morocco, snake intermediates and hayfork end ring lots of other rare rods for. 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